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Suspended Roll: Legal or Not?



This is a Suspended Roll. Legal or not for high school under the 2012-13 rules? Watch the video, vote below, then join the conversation!

Suspended Roll: Legal or Not?

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UPDATE:

RULING: LEGAL

The thought path on this from a rules standpoint is as follows:

  • It’s an inversion, so it starts off as being illegal unless it fits one of the listed exceptions to the “No inversions” part of the rule.
  • It is a suspended roll by definition, so the question is whether it is a forward or backward suspended roll.
  • In either case, it goes from the ground back to the ground, so it isn’t breaking any rule of either skill.
  • However, if it is backward, then it cannot twist and if it is forward, it can twist.
  • The way they are holding the hands, and the fact that the flip itself (an arabian) is a 1/2 twist followed by a front flip means this skill falls into the “forward suspended roll” category, and is legal.

As Lance said below, it was legal last year and the years before.

 

Posted in E. Inversions, Section 5 - Inversions - Tagged AACCA College Legal, AACCA High School Legal, inversions, NFHS High School Legal, stunt
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17 Comments

  1. diana brown's Gravatar diana brown
    June 18, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Legal because 1 she was floor level and 2 because at no time did the spotters let go of her hands or arms

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  2. cheer coach's Gravatar cheer coach
    June 18, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    This is not legal because you can NOT TWIST while flipping. I Love the stunt though, wish we were able to do it!

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    • AACCA Jim's Gravatar AACCA Jim
      June 18, 2012 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

      Nope, it’s LEGAL and you can do it! See the update for an explanation.

      Reply
  3. Jennifer's Gravatar Jennifer
    June 18, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    I would have to say legal. Notice how she stands up fully and forward before she initiates the suspended roll. Her bases stay in contact with her at all times. Hope you let us know how you interpret this stunt.

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    • AACCA Jim's Gravatar AACCA Jim
      June 18, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

      We will. I thought it would be good to let people take a look at some of the things rules interpreters look at as we walk through decisions. This one is a good example. I’ll let some more time go by so people have a chance after school or work to see it also.

      Reply
  4. tb's Gravatar tb
    June 18, 2012 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    Not allowed to twist.

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    • AACCA Jim's Gravatar AACCA Jim
      June 18, 2012 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

      You can twist in a suspended forward roll, which is what this is.

      Reply
  5. Cathy Bauer's Gravatar Cathy Bauer
    June 18, 2012 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    does not look difficult and demonstrates adequate spotting :-)

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  6. Chandra's Gravatar Chandra
    June 18, 2012 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    Legal has flyer had Continous contact with bases and starts and ends on performance floor.

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  7. Erica Walsh's Gravatar Erica Walsh
    June 18, 2012 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    Legal.
    She starts from the ground and finishes twisting before she does the flip.

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  8. Stephanie's Gravatar Stephanie
    June 18, 2012 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    legal. Because she is facing forward already before she flips. She does not twist and flip at the same time.

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  9. lance's Gravatar lance
    June 18, 2012 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    this skill, Arabian front, is legal by even last year rules. It is braced by 2 separate bases with a 1/2 twist (which is not stipulated twist or not) and with that said front whirrlies (front fulls) are legal as well with the same above stipulations.

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    • AACCA Jim's Gravatar AACCA Jim
      June 18, 2012 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

      Exactly!

      The thought path on this from a rules standpoint is as follows:

      • It’s an inversion, so it starts off as being illegal unless it fits one of the listed exceptions to the “No inversions” part of the rule.
      • It is a suspended roll by definition, so the question is whether it is a forward or backward suspended roll.
      • In either case, it goes from the ground back to the ground, so it isn’t breaking any rule of either skill.
      • However, if it is backward, then it cannot twist and if it is forward, it can twist.
      • The way they are holding the hands, and the fact that the flip itself (an arabian) is a 1/2 twist followed by a front flip means this skill falls into the “forward suspended roll” category, and is legal.

      As Lance said, it was legal last year and the years before.

      Reply
  10. Kara Blumenstein's Gravatar Kara Blumenstein
    June 22, 2012 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Would this be considered illegal if the flyer would land in a load-in position with a separate set of basses in front and the back remained in contact with the flyer the entire time? The side spots would also remain in contact until the new bases completed the next stunt, as the flyers ‘push off the bases shoulders’ instead of releasing the flyer to let her complete that on her own.

    I understand that this is mostly only legal because it is going from ground to ground. With the addition of landing in a ‘load-in position’ does that automatically make it illegal?

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    • AACCA Jim's Gravatar AACCA Jim
      July 3, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

      Suspended rolls cannot land in stunts. Forward rolls can land on the ground or in a cradle, and backward rolls can only land on the ground.

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  11. Lynn's Gravatar Lynn
    August 5, 2012 at 6:48 am | Permalink

    Ok, so this is legal… and it would be illegal to land in a load in position. Let’s say she lands like in the video and immediately jumps into a load in position…is it still legal?

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    • AACCA Jim's Gravatar AACCA Jim
      August 8, 2012 at 10:15 am | Permalink

      It would be illegal to land in a two-foot load. It could land in a one foot load with the other foot on the ground. It could also land on the ground and then immediately load into something. Once the suspended roll lands, it is done, and no rules regarding it still apply. It can then go on to any other legal skill.

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